[theora] NHW Project - high compression (-l6 setting and below)

[Raphael Canut]

Hello,

I would like to thank very much the Theora channel community for their
support and help!!! And even recently a Theora channel member proposed me
to freely host on his server the NHW Project website, to present the codec
on the embedded processors, MCU forums that he knows well, another member
forked my GitHub repository!!! Really thank you very much!!!

It makes me think that maybe the NHW Project will not disappear as many
great projects before like Rududu codec, DLI compression, UCI codec (x264
intra) and others... -but these projects will maybe resurrect today-.

There are some delay with the -l6 and lower quality settings because it is
difficult to create good ones, that can compete with HEVC.But it would be
so great to have some help from the community! Because I think that the NHW
Project is not dead, and I start to be more optimistic with the recent
improvements, because from -h3 to -l5 quality settings, it is very
competitive, I find it on par or better than x265 (HEVC)! And it is
furthermore royalty-free and x50 faster to encode and x15 faster to decode
than x265! With these advantages, better, very faster, free compared to
HEVC, it can maybe find a place in mobile devices, embedded devices...

So who knows, the NHW Project has maybe a future, it remains -l6 and others
high compression settings, it is not easy, not to say extremely hard (for
me) and it would be so great to have some help from the community, for
those who have some skills in codec development!!! Monty, would you know
developers that could be interested in giving little time to the NHW
Project?

Well, many thanks again to the community! and do not hesitate to test the
last version of the NHW Project that is very competitive!

Cheers,
Raphael

[Raphael Canut]

Hello Ken,

Many thanks for your reply!

Yes, I very need to adapt the NHW codec to any image size.But actually it
is the least interesting part, I don't think that it is that difficult
(compared to creating high compression settings) but it is very boring,
annoying... Really not the part that I prefer... For now, as I am jobless,
my aim is to have "pleasure" with the NHW Project and to complete all the
quality settings, in order to have a demo version on 512x512 image size
that could maybe interest someone, a company that will then maybe hire,
sponsorize me to adapt the codec to any size... Because to sum up, to adapt
the NHW codec to any image size, I will need a paid contract for it....

Many thanks again for your feedback!
Cheers,
Raphael

Raphael,
Personally, I feel one of the highest priorities to get help right now
should be trying to support images of different sizes. With the current
restrictions of 512 x 512, why would someone, let's say, on the MCU forums,
contribute, or want to use the codec, if they physically cannot use it on
their device because their device needs larger pictures, for example.
I know you have more pressing needs, but it'd be nice if you, or someone
else with codec experience (that person is NOT me!!!!!) could help
implement that and submit a pull request to update the code to support
images of any size.
With the current code, you might find that the compression only works with
pictures of 512 x 512, and using an image a lot larger could cause many
issues. Or perhaps, supporting larger / smaller images would require
drastic changes in code, and you might have to rewrite a lot.
That's just my two cents.
If you want though, when I find some time, I can work on supporting a
better command line parsing. Does your codec compile under Linux? If
not, that's something I can try to work on as well. But right now, we
have been so busy, it's insane. Trying to setup a small business
legitimate and the Windows licensing is very confusing. Even Microsoft
employees don't fully understand it! We just want to run Windows in a
couple of VMs on a Linux box, along with running Windows on a workstation.
Turns out we need to purchase Enterprise Edition with Software Assurance
and maybe VDI licenses for every device that's going to connect. My
wife's laptop, running Windows 10 Home legally cannot connect remotely,
because it has to be Pro or higher. Not sure about the Linux machines.
They said a reseller would contact us (which they said before, but for
some reason, it was never entered into the system).
But I guess that last paragraph has nothing to do with your codec really
(except the command line parsing and Linux support). Just needed to vent
a little!
Sorry!
Spork Schivago

Post by Raphael Canut
Hello,
I would like to thank very much the Theora channel community for their
support and help!!! And even recently a Theora channel member proposed me
to freely host on his server the NHW Project website, to present the codec
on the embedded processors, MCU forums that he knows well, another member
forked my GitHub repository!!! Really thank you very much!!!
It makes me think that maybe the NHW Project will not disappear as many
great projects before like Rududu codec, DLI compression, UCI codec (x264
intra) and others... -but these projects will maybe resurrect today-.
There are some delay with the -l6 and lower quality settings because it
is difficult to create good ones, that can compete with HEVC.But it would
be so great to have some help from the community! Because I think that the
NHW Project is not dead, and I start to be more optimistic with the recent
improvements, because from -h3 to -l5 quality settings, it is very
competitive, I find it on par or better than x265 (HEVC)! And it is
furthermore royalty-free and x50 faster to encode and x15 faster to decode
than x265! With these advantages, better, very faster, free compared to
HEVC, it can maybe find a place in mobile devices, embedded devices...
So who knows, the NHW Project has maybe a future, it remains -l6 and
others high compression settings, it is not easy, not to say extremely hard
(for me) and it would be so great to have some help from the community, for
those who have some skills in codec development!!! Monty, would you know
developers that could be interested in giving little time to the NHW
Project?
Well, many thanks again to the community! and do not hesitate to test the
last version of the NHW Project that is very competitive!
Cheers,
Raphael
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[Raphael Canut]

Hello Spork,

If you want though, when I find some time, I can work on supporting a

better command line parsing.

Yes that would be great as my command line parsing is not good at all.

Does your codec compile under Linux? If not, that's something I can try

to work on as well.

I never tested my codec under Linux )-:, and so it would be also great to
compile it under Linux.I think that if there are changes to do, it would be
minor ones... I don't have a makefile..., it simply compiles with: gcc *.c
-O3 -o nhw_encoder.exe.

But right now, we have been so busy, it's insane. Trying to setup a

small business

Absolutely no problem, really focus on your priorities, and best of luck
with your project!

Cheers,
Raphael

Raphael,
Personally, I feel one of the highest priorities to get help right now
should be trying to support images of different sizes. With the current
restrictions of 512 x 512, why would someone, let's say, on the MCU forums,
contribute, or want to use the codec, if they physically cannot use it on
their device because their device needs larger pictures, for example.
I know you have more pressing needs, but it'd be nice if you, or someone
else with codec experience (that person is NOT me!!!!!) could help
implement that and submit a pull request to update the code to support
images of any size.
With the current code, you might find that the compression only works with
pictures of 512 x 512, and using an image a lot larger could cause many
issues. Or perhaps, supporting larger / smaller images would require
drastic changes in code, and you might have to rewrite a lot.
That's just my two cents.
If you want though, when I find some time, I can work on supporting a
better command line parsing. Does your codec compile under Linux? If
not, that's something I can try to work on as well. But right now, we
have been so busy, it's insane. Trying to setup a small business
legitimate and the Windows licensing is very confusing. Even Microsoft
employees don't fully understand it! We just want to run Windows in a
couple of VMs on a Linux box, along with running Windows on a workstation.
Turns out we need to purchase Enterprise Edition with Software Assurance
and maybe VDI licenses for every device that's going to connect. My
wife's laptop, running Windows 10 Home legally cannot connect remotely,
because it has to be Pro or higher. Not sure about the Linux machines.
They said a reseller would contact us (which they said before, but for
some reason, it was never entered into the system).
But I guess that last paragraph has nothing to do with your codec really
(except the command line parsing and Linux support). Just needed to vent
a little!
Sorry!
Spork Schivago

Post by Raphael Canut
Hello,
I would like to thank very much the Theora channel community for their
support and help!!! And even recently a Theora channel member proposed me
to freely host on his server the NHW Project website, to present the codec
on the embedded processors, MCU forums that he knows well, another member
forked my GitHub repository!!! Really thank you very much!!!
It makes me think that maybe the NHW Project will not disappear as many
great projects before like Rududu codec, DLI compression, UCI codec (x264
intra) and others... -but these projects will maybe resurrect today-.
There are some delay with the -l6 and lower quality settings because it
is difficult to create good ones, that can compete with HEVC.But it would
be so great to have some help from the community! Because I think that the
NHW Project is not dead, and I start to be more optimistic with the recent
improvements, because from -h3 to -l5 quality settings, it is very
competitive, I find it on par or better than x265 (HEVC)! And it is
furthermore royalty-free and x50 faster to encode and x15 faster to decode
than x265! With these advantages, better, very faster, free compared to
HEVC, it can maybe find a place in mobile devices, embedded devices...
So who knows, the NHW Project has maybe a future, it remains -l6 and
others high compression settings, it is not easy, not to say extremely hard
(for me) and it would be so great to have some help from the community, for
those who have some skills in codec development!!! Monty, would you know
developers that could be interested in giving little time to the NHW
Project?
Well, many thanks again to the community! and do not hesitate to test the
last version of the NHW Project that is very competitive!
Cheers,
Raphael
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